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Door Solution for Open Master Bathroom

Hello! My husband and I just bought our first house. In the master suite, there is no door separating the master bath from the bedroom, which is a problem for noise, light, and privacy reasons. Apparently that is how "modern" homes in California homes are being built these days.

 

We need to install some type of door there, but are not sure what good options there are to be had at a reasonable price (a few hundred dollars). We want the doors to look clean and finished and block out light and some noise at a minimum. The border of the opening is thicker than the wall and is bullnosed.

 

Perhaps some tall and narrow french doors would be nice, but our initial thought is that they would need to be a custom size and potentially expensive. What type of labor and cost might we expect for a project like this? Other ideas?

 

Thoughts or advice are very appreciated here. We are newbies to home ownership and improvement.

 

Thank you!

 

The opening is  

Width

2' 9.5"

Height

7' 11 3/8"

Opening Thickness

11.5"

 

And here's a picture of it

 

OpenBathPic.jpg

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Posted 2012-02-16T02:45:44+0000  by duqueclan duqueclan
 
Google sliding barn door. I have a master with a 4' gap between bedroom and vanity. I think I might try it.
Posted 2013-04-01T04:33:23+0000  by Lcwlaura

TAngelo,

 

Since you were so helpful with the previous users post, I thought I would reach out to you and ask your advice. 

 

We just bought a new house and the master bathroom has a similar layout as it is open to the master bedroom with no door.  We do not like this and want to close it in with a door.  As you will see, there is also a small knockout that will have to be closed in as well.  The light switch may need to be moved or relocated.

 

I have tried to attached a picture for your reference but it is not letting me for some reason. Maybe there is another way to get you a picture.  

 

Any help you can offer is greatly appreciated! 

 

Thanks 

Posted 2013-01-23T18:04:04+0000  by pgorman13

Hello Jennifer, thanks for writing back.

 

If you leave the opening as is and add the prehung door, based on your dimensions you would need a custom size. Here is how I determine that:

 

Your existing opening is 33-1/2"W x 95-3/8"H, existing opening is normally referred called "rough opening" which is normally measured between the studs or 2x4's, which you don't have visible. An existing opening of 33-1/2"W x 95-3/8"H would give you a door size of 31" x 92-7/8", this size is not standard—when I say door size I am referring to the door itself no frame.

 

So you can do one of three options:


  1. Remove the existing trim work to reveal the studs, thus fitting a standard size door (width & height)
  2. Use a shorter door as you mentioned in your response
  3. Or consider going with a pocket door

 

In either of the first two options, you will still need a custom size door because of the excessive large 11.5” jamb. Also, you will need to re-trim & do some drywall work to complete the job.  If possible, could you please post a picture of the jamb.

 

The option to consider a pocket door is excellent choice, but you first must determine a few things:


  • ·         Is the wall load-bearing?
  • ·         Are there any pipes in the wall that may interfere with the pocket door track & frame?
  • ·         Is there any electrical that needs moving, if so, can it be moved?

 

Jeld-Wen Interior door brochure

http://appledoor.com/pdf/JeldWenInteriorDoor.pdf

 

Home Depot Buying Guide:

Interior Doors  http://bit.ly/ABsBzw

 

 

pocket_door.jpg

Posted 2012-02-17T16:53:19+0000  by Angelo_HD_CHI

Thanks. We do have a fan as well as a window that can be opened in the bathroom, so we should be good here.

Posted 2012-02-17T00:29:21+0000  by duqueclan

Hi Tangelo,

 

Thanks so much for your thoughtful and detailed response. The brochures were a great start for us to get familiar with what's out there. Sounds like a solid core moulded door would suit our needs well.

 

I'm still not clear on whether we would need a custom door or what could be done to accommodate a standard door. We will plan on speaking to an associate at the store, but your thoughts here would be appreciated.

 

I noticed that some of the standard door sizes offered by Jeld-Wen come pretty close to the width and height of our opening (W: 2' 9.5", H: 7' 11.3", Thickness: 11.5"). There are doors that are 8' 0" or 7' 0" tall and 2' 8" or 2' 10" wide, and also narrow doors of the same heights and width of 1' 4" or 1'6". Taking the 2' 10" x 8' 0" door, would it be feasible to try to cut the door(s) down the fraction of an inch smaller in each dimension? What about taking the next smaller door, 2' 8" x 7' 0" and modify the opening to make it flush? If so, what are common ways of modifying the opening to accommodate a slightly smaller door?

 

Since there is no casing on our opening, I suppose our jamb thickness is 11.5". It is much thicker than the standard thickness as your described.

 

It is important that the door looks nice, and like it was intended to be there (not like we stuck in a door after-the-fact, hopefully). We do not want it to be an eyesore or potential negative point for buyers when we sell the property down the line.

 

Thanks for your help!

Jennifer

Posted 2012-02-17T00:27:15+0000  by duqueclan

Also, make sure there is adequate ventilation.  A bath fan or an openable window will be required if you try to sell this house. 

Posted 2012-02-16T20:46:23+0000  by Stukas

Hello duqueclan, congratulation on your purchase of your first, and welcome to the community!

 

I can understand the want for a door to separate the bedroom from the bathroom, especially on those days where one person may sleep in and doesn't want the noise & light coming from the bathroom.

 

There are many door styles to choose from, have you decided to either paint the door or stain it? I've included some pictures below of Jeld-Wen doors, and I have also included some links to several brochures showing real wood doors and moulded doors. A moulded door is a door that has the panels embossed into the surface, these doors are available in either hollow or solid, for your application I would recommend a solid since you mention you wanted a block the noise emanating from the bathroom. A solid core construction door or as Jeld-Wen calls it "ProCore", is available on all Moulded & Flush doors--the solid core reduces the transmission of sound up 50 percent compared to a hollow core door, and the solid core helps prevent dents and dings.

 

One other benefit of a Moulded door, once you have the door painted on all six sides, the door will no longer need to be "touched-up" compared to Stile and Rail doors. When you have a traditional wood door that is assembled, not stamped or embossed, those panels over time will shrink & move, which will reveal a unfinished area needing a "touch-up" to seal the door from moisture. None of this pertains to you if you have already decided to stain your doors.

 

Stop in the store with the sizes you have and the store associate will be able to give you a price. It looks like based on height you may need a custom size door, unless you modify the opening to fit a standard size. You mention a Opening Thickness 11.5", the standard thickness for the door frame is 4-9/16", this is based on 2x4 construction and 1/2" drywall on both sides

 

Below is overhead view of what a door jamb looks like. I don't see any casing in the picture you provided on your current wall opening, probably because there is no door frame there. You just need to measure between the 2 arrows as illustrated in the photo below, and that will be your jamb size.



 

 

doors at a glance.PNG

 

 

Custom Interior Wood Doors: http://c2456372.r72.cf0.rackcdn.com/1572/jw-custom-wood-interior-doors-brochure.pdf

 

Custom Carved Composite Wood Interior Doors: http://c2456372.r72.cf0.rackcdn.com/1569/jw-custom-carved-wood-composite-interior-doors-brochure.pdf

 

Moulded & Flush Wood Composite Doors: http://c2456372.r72.cf0.rackcdn.com/1581/jw-molded-flush-wood-composite-interior-doors-brochure.pdf

 

Jeld-Wen Brochures: http://www.jeld-wen.com/learn/resources/brochures

 

 

Posted 2012-02-16T17:39:17+0000  by Angelo_HD_CHI
 
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