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How to do knockdown texture in a kitchen ceiling?

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Posted 2011-08-22T20:14:34+0000  by vpedro vpedro
 

 Hi vpedro, this is Mike the Home Depot Answer Man.


Doing knockdown texture is similar to using normal texturing. You spray on the texturizing material and use a trowel or drywall knife to smooth it over or “knock it down”. The link below is an example of a good knockdown knife to use.

 

It has a handle to allow you to knockdown the texture with out having to climb a ladder.


The amount of material you apply will be determined by the amount of texture in the adjoining rooms. Be sure to apply enough texturizing material to match the rest of the ceilings in the house. 

 

Don't worry if the ceiling looks a little different from the other rooms, that's what knockdown texture is all about.

 

Once the texture has dried, prime the ceiling and paint it. 


Don’t forget to wear protective clothing and  mask the cabinets, counter and floor areas. This is a messy job, and texturizing material is hard to get off once it has dried.


Mike,

 

 http://www.homedepot.com/buy/wal-board-tools/light-weight-knock-down-knife-w23-in-offset-aluminum-handle-21025.html

 


 


 





Posted 2011-08-22T21:33:38+0000  by Mike_HD_OC

Behr sells a textured paint in the Paint Department of your local THD. Pick the pail with red on the label, it's called Smooth. Using a Goop roller (check the roller bay in the Paint Dept), you will apply the paint to your surface. The Goop roller will pull peaks in the thick textured paint. Waiting the amount of time specified in the directions on the label, you can then use a trowel to knock down the peaks to get your knock-down look. A better solution than a trowel is a knock-down blade. They're sold in the Building Material Department of your local THD. They're made by Wallboard and are somewhere around 20-24" wide with an extension handle, allowing you to cover a much broader area in less time.

 

If you don't like the sheen or color of the paint, it can easily be painted over with the sheen and color of choice.

Posted 2011-09-04T03:44:35+0000  by Paul

Hi everyone! ... I have a few questions about the knockdown ceiling method. I have the general idea but need to know what tools would work. I don't have a spray and plan on using a roller to apply the texture which leads to my first question.

1)  Should I use a heavy nap or  a goop roller ?

and what should I use to texture

2) Joint compound or Texture paint.( I have about 5 rooms to do?)

 

 

Thanks
Brian "the diy builder"

 

Posted 2012-04-05T19:35:25+0000  by bpittman13

Hello BPittman!

 

Although a variety of methods are available, I would not recommend the goop roller or textured paint.

 

Hopper Gun.jpgA Hopper Gun is the preferred tool to create popcorn, knock down, or splatter.

 

Orifice Set.jpg  These tips give you variations in the spray pattern.

 

Wall Texture.jpgAnd this media mixes with water to create that texture on walls or ceilings.

 

You'll also need a flat-edge trowel to "knock down" the surface as it dries and an air compressor to drive the media.

 

Be certain to prep with plenty of tape and plastic to protect you room.

 

This method is fast and works exceptionally well.

Posted 2012-04-10T12:16:08+0000  by Pat_HD_ATL

Thanks ... This will be my first go at ceilings.. I'm a weekend warrior type but the hopper gun seems like it maybe a bit out of my league :) So thats the only reason I asked about the rollers and paint or compound. Is it fairly easy?

 

 

Posted 2012-04-11T15:19:25+0000  by bpittman13

 

I have never seen a roller applied texture where it was not obvious that it had been applied with a roller. It is just too hard to get the textured paint to look uniform. Every roller stroke shows as to direction. The heavy textured paint is very difficult to distribute evenly over the surface. If you do use textured paint, you want to first seal the surface. Otherwise, it is too difficult to distribute and will show heavier amounts in some places than others.

 

Spray equipment is the only way to get a uniform appearance, especially over large areas. Home Depot rents self-contained spray units with its own onboard air turbine. The hopper which PatInPaint has posted will also do a credible job. It does require a substantial air compressor, both as to air pressure and volumn of air. Air volumn is very important. The small portable "pancake" type air-compressors don't put out enough volumn, although they might be able to perform in short bursts, allowing the airtank to catch-up. This would be highly annoying and might present problems with the newly applied texture setting up before the surface was finished with spraying.

 

A knockdown texture is accomplished by applying a rather heavy spray, allowing it to set up for a couple minutes, and then flattening the peaks. If you do the knock down too soon, you risk merely flattening the entire surface.

 

 

Posted 2012-04-11T21:40:58+0000  by ordjen

Outstanding Instruction Ordjen!

 

You said ... apply a heavy spray, allow to set for a couple of minutes, and then flatten the peaks. Knock down too soon and you risk merely flattening the entire surface.

 

That is exactly right!

 

Like you, I have used the goop roller for a spot repair, but over a larger surface the material builds up in the roller so much that the pattern is inconsistent. You might switch between several goop rollers and continuously have an assistant keep one clean. Wetting the goop roller before you begin will initially help the material release from the plastic loops.

 

So for everyday spot repair the goop roller may be OK, but larger surfaces use the hopper gun or hire a ceiling specialist.

Posted 2012-04-12T14:01:51+0000  by Pat_HD_ATL

Hello BPittman,

 

DIYers and Pros alike, all have a learning curve. They all start at a basic level, try different solutions, and ultimately learn what works best for them.

 

Sometimes, the project is simply beyond their skill level. At that point, most are better hiring someone with experience and observing to learn the technique.

 

On this project, you might be in the latter category.

 

Your Question: Is it fairly easy?

 

On a difficulty scale between one and ten, where ten is most difficult ... I would say creating knock down with a hopper gun is an eight. Not so difficult, but certainly difficult enough that a beginner might seek on-site assistance.

 

You know, there is another option!

 

You might try Homax Sand Texture that simply adds texture to your ceiling paint.

 

Homax Paint Texture.jpg This product is simple to apply ... just like painting.

 

Mix the pouch of additive with your gallon of paint, cover the can for thirty-minutes, and then roll it onto your ceiling.

 

Your ceiling paint can be tinted before you mix the additive if you would like a hint of color on your ceiling.

 

On the same one to ten scale, this project would be a two ... quite easy.

Posted 2012-04-12T14:18:35+0000  by Pat_HD_ATL
 
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