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what kind of white paint would you use on a bathroom ceiling?

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Posted 2012-07-30T20:13:53+0000  by ed1 ed1
 

 

Hi Ed1, thanks for your question.

 

If the bathroom has a shower and there is a lot of moisture, oil based paint would be the best choice.

 

However, a lot depends on what type of paint is on the ceiling now. If the room was previously painted with oil based paint, then you can use oil based paint or a latex based paint whichever you prefer.

 

If latex paint is on the walls now, then the new paint must be latex, as oil based paint applied over latex will in most cases fail and peel off the ceiling.

 

If you are not sure what type of paint is on the walls now, play it safe and use a latex paint.

 

Gloss or a simi-gloss finish is recommended for bathrooms. The color choices are limited only by your imagination.

 

Be sure to do a thorough job of preparation. Make sure the ceiling is clean, dry and free of any soap scum, soil or loose paint.

 

Use a quality primer such as Behr Premium Plus Interior Primer to assure a good finished job.

 

Or buy quality paint such as the new self priming Behr Premium Plus Interior Enamel which is paint and primer in one.

 

Using inferior paint always results in more work (a second coat) and often poor results.

 

Stop by your local Home Depot, our paint specialists can show all of the options and give good advice on making you bathroom look great!

 

I hope this answers your question

 

Mike,

 

Posted 2012-07-30T21:56:32+0000  by Mike_HD_OC
Couple issues here.

It's oil over latex, never latex over oil. Of your not sure you can always prime.

Self priming paint is the Behr Ultra not Behr premium plus. Also it has never been promoted as a 1 coat paint. I learned my lesson when I was threatened to be punched in the face by a customer who bought the brightest yellow in the Disney sections and wondered why it didn't cover. Paint and primer in 1, simply means the first coat counts as 2 as it has primer and paint. Not 1 coat. It has a good chance of being one coat but never guaranteed especially if the color is a tough one(mainly ones in a deep base).

Troll out :D
Posted 2012-08-05T21:43:26+0000  by FormerD24Troll

 

The concern of oil over latex or latex over oil has traditionally been concerns of adhesion. Oil generally adheres better than traditional latex paints, Older generation latex paints would not bond to hard, slick oil enamels. In recent years, however, paints such as Behr's Ultra will now bond directly to oil surfaces  Also, witness RustOleums's Cabinet Transformations, which will bond directly to varnished or melamine cabinets.

 

Traditional latex/acrylic paints can be put over oil paints if a suitable primer is used first. This can be either an oil based primer such as Kilz, or CoverStain, or an acrylic based primer such as Behr's Enamel Undercoater No. 75 or Glidden's Gripper. BIN pigmented shellac is also a great primer.

 

During my former contracting days, when encountering an oil based ceiling paint in a bath, I usually just stayed with oil if the ceiling was in good shape. If it ain't broke, don't fix it! Generally, oil paints are more moisture resistive than acrylic paints. If the ceiling needed patching or showed other signs of failure, I converted to an acrylic paint after using a suitable primer.

 

The oil over latex or latex over oil debate takes on another concern when doing EXTERIOR painting. Oil paint is hard, brittle and not very elastic. It gets less elastic with age. Acrylic paints are very elastic and adhere very well. Put these two together in an exterior environment where the temperature and humidity can change rapidly and you have the potential of massive paint failure. Acrylic paint put over years of oil paint accumulation has the potential to literally tear the oil paint right off the siding!

 

There are actually paint strippers on the market now which use this phenominum to their edvantage. They bond and shrink as they dry, pulling the old paint away from the wooden substrate. They are very expensive, but they can be applied with an airless sprayer without any protective gear, as they are not toxic or alkaline.

Posted 2012-08-06T05:14:09+0000  by ordjen
You are much more knowledgable than me sir an I commend that... My main intention was to troll the bad advice given by a "home depot pro" but clearly a corporate member attempting to keep this forumn active and useful. I liked home depot and put two years in there an in my particular store was the color changing master. To no avail paint was looked down upon and I was unable to advance and innevitably quit to make more $$. I cannot survive on 9.67 an hour as a 26year old with bills and and rent. Just another retailer in the world of crappy retail jobs. I missed the days of Arthur blank... Very sad indeed -_-
Posted 2012-08-06T06:45:15+0000  by FormerD24Troll

 

Troll,

 

The entire Behr line of paints, both Premium Plus and premium Plus Ultra, were recently upgraded. Both now are self-priming, however, the regular Premium Plus is still not a stain killer, nor does it enjoy the Nano technology. 

 

I do agree that there has been some confusion by the paint consumer of how a "paint and primer in one" functions. It simple means that two separate products , i.e. dedicated primer and finish coat paint, are not needed. The paint functions in both capacities. It is a great convenience and can actually can save money under certain circumstances' as well as time.

 

I do think some customers have false expectations about "one coat" coverage. This is basically determined by the amount of white pigment in a formula and which colorants are used. The "inorganic" primary colors offer rather poor blockage of light. The "organic" colorants, such as raw umber and lamp black, block the passage of light, thus increasing coverabilty. Unfortunately, the organic colorants also dull the color. This is why they are not found in clear yellows, reds, blues and greens. This is also why light, pastel colors sacrifice coverability. This is also why dark, but bright  colors often don't cover well, which is contrary to what most people think.

 

Every painter knows that a couple drops of raw umber and lamp black will dramitically increase how a white trim paint covers. The difference in not noticible against stronger colors, however, it will look terribly dull and gray against a pastel colors. Behr chooses to use Ultra Pure White because it is a versatile tinting base. However, its coverage can be increased significantly by adding a little umber or lamp black. Most paints that are labled as "White" have already been significantly dulled done to increase coverability.

 

Sorry to have rambled so :)

Posted 2012-08-07T01:53:15+0000  by ordjen
 
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