01-30-2011 12:44 PM
Help! I am remodeling an old house and one area has cement floor (ground level, not basement). About half of the area has old vinyl tile on it which is not chipped and is very secure. I want to install new tile. Do I have to remove the old tile or can I install a subfloor over everything and then install the new tile.
Any help/suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
R. L. Snodgrass
01-30-2011 01:53 PM
I just recently put the peel and stick tile down in my basement. Just sweep and damp mop the concrete and allow plenty of time to dry and you will be fine to put down the peel and stick tiles. When you say that you want to tile over the old vinyl
I am assuming that you are using the same peel and stick tile there as well and not actual tile. You can install new peel and stick over top of the tile but I would damp mop it with a water/ammonia solution to strip any wax off the surface. This will help it adhere properly. Good luck, let us know how it looks.
Thanks for the question and welcome to the community.
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01-30-2011 09:39 PM
I have a 14 X 5 foot front porch which is concrete and has some type of old outdoor carpeting glued on top, with boards on the 3 faces (the porch slab is about 9 inches off the ground but varies). I would like to put down some type of vinyl (indoor/outdoor) "tiles" and am wondering if I should leave the old stuff down since it seems to be pretty tight fitting and smooth? Is there non-sticky flooring similar to the Allure brand that would work for a covered porch? Note, it's covered but not enclosed. Also, how would I finish off the "edges" since the new flooring won't "bend" around the edges like carpeting would? The old stuff looks to be fitted from the floor, over the edges, then down to the ground along the facing then the 1X10 wood covers the 3 faces. Any ideas on materials and/or how to do this? I'm assuming concrete can be drilled/nailed or screwed into? The wood is rotting from touching the ground and no longer is tightly nailed to the concrete facing.
01-31-2011 11:02 AM
Hi there justusgirlz!
Welcome to the community.
That porch really sounds like it needs some help. Old outdoor carpeting (green right? )and rotted fascia boards. That is one bad combination, not because it esthetically looks bad it’s just because wood wrapped with carped can’t dry fast enough and if it can’t dry fast enough it is going to rot.
I do not recommend any kind of vinyl tile for this application.
For several reasons, first vinyl tiles will allow water to penetrate and build up in between tile and concrete.
The same water will not be able to evaporate because of tile construction and groutless installation.
Second, most vinyl tiles are glued down with a”hot melt" adhesive this same adhesive will re-melt on the outdoor temperatures. In addition these tiles are not constructed from outdoor vinyl and it will lose flexibility over time.
The only way I can see a successful vinyl tile installation on that porch it is if it would be watertight.
For this application I would recommend using exterior stone tiles/pavers or composite/wood decking.
To install exterior ceramic or stone tile you would have to remove carped and expose concrete. Once concrete exposed you would have to remove and any remaining adhesive and simply glue tiles down with recommended mortar mix.
To install wood or composite decking goes you would have to attach "sleepers" (support boards) over the concrete every 16 inches and cover with decking of your choice. Keep in mind that adding sleepers and decking would raise your porch landing for about 2-1/2” inches and could bring finish surface to be higher than a door threshold.
Regardless of the option you decide to go with and by the way I would wait for the members to comment maybe somebody else has another idea that might work better for you, ask questions we are here to help.
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